Post by sinisterdonkey on Jul 28, 2007 12:22:47 GMT -5
- (taken from the WIKI) - I found this a while ago and just thought i'd copy it onto this forum, hope it helps out:-
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-Hlidara doesn't always seem inclined to say anything about the secret passage or torture chamber, even with an 85 disposition.
-The dialog sequence can be mixed up enough so that it no longer makes much sense at all. When talking with -Amusei in his prison cell, he asks for a lockpick. If you leave to go find one, you may speak to NPCs about the "Recovered Caro family ring," even though you have not finished the conversation with Amusei and found out that the ring belonged to the Caro family. -When returning to Amusei to give him the lockpick, you may no longer have the option to give it to him and hear what he has to say.
-Hlidara Mothril can be killed by the time you begin to pursue this quest. The good news is that her body has keys to the castle, and the Countess will give you enough of a hint to know that she does not wear the ring when she is sleeping. -That's really all you will need to complete the quest, but you will miss out on hearing about the torture chamber and secret passage. -You could resurrect Hlidara Mothril with the console command player.placeatme 00034E8D if you really want to hear the full story.
-The Countess' jewelry box can contain two identical copies of the quest ring. Immediately after you pick up the first ring, you will get a quest advancement popup telling you to deliver it to Ahdarji. As for the second ring, you must leave it behind. If you pick up both rings, Ahdarji's dialogue options will no longer include the "I found it, here you go" option, and you will be unable to complete the quest. This means no more Thieves' Guild missions. -Also, both rings are quest items that cannot be dropped or sold, so you'd be stuck with them forever. -There is a workaround for this on the PC version, use the console command player.removeitem 00035E95 1 twice until the counter says 0.00, then player.additem 00035E95 1 to fix the problem. -On XBOX 360, if you accidentally collect both rings and cannot complete your quest, you can murder a NPC in the castle where you collected the rings and a pop up will inform you that you must pay a blood price. Pay your blood price, and you will finish the quest and be able to complete the other quests.
-This quest cannot be completed while you have Sanguine as a current quest; however, even after completing Sanguine, the Countess may permanently sit down at the dining room table instead of retiring to her bedroom like she should. If this happens, PC users can use the console command player.additem 00035E95 1 to add the ring to your inventory and complete the quest. -For 360 users, you should punch her in the face. You will have to pay about 40gp for the assault, it will get her to get out of the chair and go about her normal routine.
-You might end up with zero rings in the jewelery box, or at least not the ring that you are looking for. This can happen if you talk to the maid and then a guard and don't talk to Ahdarji before opening the box. -It also happens if you first talk to Hlidara Mothril to find out about the Countess taking off the ring at night, and then after that talk to Count Marius Caro who tells you to talk to Hlidara Mothril. It also seems to happen in other circumstances. If this happens, PC users can use the console command player.additem 00035E95 1 to add the ring to your inventory and complete the quest.
A possible bug fix: If you don't find the ring in the box, just head outside the castle and wait for a couple of days or more, then go back in and the ring may appear in the jewelry box. You may need to try waiting multiple times, but it has been confirmed that this fix does eventually work. Another possible fix is to kill someone who belongs in the quest like the countess' bodyguard. You will get a journal update that you have to pay the bloodprice. Pay the price and you will automatically complete the quest, even if you had no rings, this also works with two rings. However, this fix may not work for all players. There have been reports that the the option to pay the bloodprice may not show up in conversations with S'Krivva even after killing, for example, the countess' bodyguard. This bug is confirmed to exist in the Xbox 360 version of the game, but appears to be a rare occurrence.
A bug could make it impossible to continue the Thieves Guild quest line. If you ask about contracts from S'Krivva, and then decline to accept the contract at that time, it may become impossible to resume this quest. It is recommended that you not ask S'Krivva about the assignment until you are ready to accept it. If this does occur, PC users can correct it by entering the console command setstage TG04Mistake 10. This will update the quest, directing you to see Ahdarji.
Occasionally, the ring will not be removed from your inventory at the completion of the quest. As it is marked as a quest item, it cannot be dropped or sold. On the PC, it is possible to use the Console to remove the ring: type player.removeitem 00035E95
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-Hlidara doesn't always seem inclined to say anything about the secret passage or torture chamber, even with an 85 disposition.
-The dialog sequence can be mixed up enough so that it no longer makes much sense at all. When talking with -Amusei in his prison cell, he asks for a lockpick. If you leave to go find one, you may speak to NPCs about the "Recovered Caro family ring," even though you have not finished the conversation with Amusei and found out that the ring belonged to the Caro family. -When returning to Amusei to give him the lockpick, you may no longer have the option to give it to him and hear what he has to say.
-Hlidara Mothril can be killed by the time you begin to pursue this quest. The good news is that her body has keys to the castle, and the Countess will give you enough of a hint to know that she does not wear the ring when she is sleeping. -That's really all you will need to complete the quest, but you will miss out on hearing about the torture chamber and secret passage. -You could resurrect Hlidara Mothril with the console command player.placeatme 00034E8D if you really want to hear the full story.
-The Countess' jewelry box can contain two identical copies of the quest ring. Immediately after you pick up the first ring, you will get a quest advancement popup telling you to deliver it to Ahdarji. As for the second ring, you must leave it behind. If you pick up both rings, Ahdarji's dialogue options will no longer include the "I found it, here you go" option, and you will be unable to complete the quest. This means no more Thieves' Guild missions. -Also, both rings are quest items that cannot be dropped or sold, so you'd be stuck with them forever. -There is a workaround for this on the PC version, use the console command player.removeitem 00035E95 1 twice until the counter says 0.00, then player.additem 00035E95 1 to fix the problem. -On XBOX 360, if you accidentally collect both rings and cannot complete your quest, you can murder a NPC in the castle where you collected the rings and a pop up will inform you that you must pay a blood price. Pay your blood price, and you will finish the quest and be able to complete the other quests.
-This quest cannot be completed while you have Sanguine as a current quest; however, even after completing Sanguine, the Countess may permanently sit down at the dining room table instead of retiring to her bedroom like she should. If this happens, PC users can use the console command player.additem 00035E95 1 to add the ring to your inventory and complete the quest. -For 360 users, you should punch her in the face. You will have to pay about 40gp for the assault, it will get her to get out of the chair and go about her normal routine.
-You might end up with zero rings in the jewelery box, or at least not the ring that you are looking for. This can happen if you talk to the maid and then a guard and don't talk to Ahdarji before opening the box. -It also happens if you first talk to Hlidara Mothril to find out about the Countess taking off the ring at night, and then after that talk to Count Marius Caro who tells you to talk to Hlidara Mothril. It also seems to happen in other circumstances. If this happens, PC users can use the console command player.additem 00035E95 1 to add the ring to your inventory and complete the quest.
A possible bug fix: If you don't find the ring in the box, just head outside the castle and wait for a couple of days or more, then go back in and the ring may appear in the jewelry box. You may need to try waiting multiple times, but it has been confirmed that this fix does eventually work. Another possible fix is to kill someone who belongs in the quest like the countess' bodyguard. You will get a journal update that you have to pay the bloodprice. Pay the price and you will automatically complete the quest, even if you had no rings, this also works with two rings. However, this fix may not work for all players. There have been reports that the the option to pay the bloodprice may not show up in conversations with S'Krivva even after killing, for example, the countess' bodyguard. This bug is confirmed to exist in the Xbox 360 version of the game, but appears to be a rare occurrence.
A bug could make it impossible to continue the Thieves Guild quest line. If you ask about contracts from S'Krivva, and then decline to accept the contract at that time, it may become impossible to resume this quest. It is recommended that you not ask S'Krivva about the assignment until you are ready to accept it. If this does occur, PC users can correct it by entering the console command setstage TG04Mistake 10. This will update the quest, directing you to see Ahdarji.
Occasionally, the ring will not be removed from your inventory at the completion of the quest. As it is marked as a quest item, it cannot be dropped or sold. On the PC, it is possible to use the Console to remove the ring: type player.removeitem 00035E95
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